Mizzou to leave the Big 12 for the Big Ten

[mjrod]

Nebraska fans need UT to move on since they can't seem to beat them.

the tide is turning 

So is your mom now the she likes it up the ass.

you came outta your mom's ass.

I came in your mom's.

[flarple]

Why the fuck is Misery bitching? They didn't end up in the hell hole of Shreveport.

Sure they have to go to the shithole of texass, but at least it may be warm there.

[shmendric]

It'd be warm in a fresh field of shit too, no reason to lay in it though

[mjrod]

Mizzou moving over would make sense, and they could still have border war rivalry with KU meaning it could be a premiere OOC game on TV (more money.)

Iowa State going would be good too because of the in-state rivalry although it's only good for bragging rights of farmers.

If I were to want take teams, I'd take a TCU and Utah.  Both those programs are very good and would make the Big 12 much better.

In other news, NC's mom took up the ass from three guys at the same time.  She's such a cock whore..

[Mizzou Mafia]

you must have missed the argument(several boards ago) when I proved that A&M and the SEC were in serious negotiations at the time of the formation of the Big 12.

Yes, how could I have missed that famous post?

[Mizzou Mafia]

Yes, the Mafia knows all: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/585

DeArmond probably read my work.

[Mizzou Mafia]

goldy, it's all nonsense but...

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2007-07-31/will-big-ten-grow-dozen
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/309140-the-perfect-darkhorse-candidate-for-big-ten-expansion-texas

 

That IS nonsense. Some contributor to "bleacherreport.com" writes that Texas and the Big Ten might work? Why doesn't he go for the gusto, and just say they're pursuing the Dallas Cowboys?

It flatters UTerus egos, though.

[Super PurpleCat]

Mizzou is mad about their bowl?

Seriously?

Wow.

[Goldbrick]

Mizzou should be pissed at their low fan support and shitty athletics.

Instead they blame the Big 12 for holding them back.

Like a true inbred, red-headed stepchild.

[Super PurpleCat]

Mizzou has had like, what, 5 seasons now in the North practically handed to them to take and they've pissed down their leg every time.  They've only themselves to blame, including this year.

[Goldbrick]

Mizzou has had like, what, 5 seasons now in the North practically handed to them to take and they've pissed down their leg every time.  They've only themselves to blame, including this year.

I wonder who they'll blame when they can no longer recruit Texas players.

At least they have prestigious(lol) academics I guess. Hanging with the other nerds makes them look smarter methinks.

[ChemEinCO]

IF missouri is offered (I'm thinking less than 5% chance of that.) Texas and A$M start looking long and hard at PAC-10.



you other bitches can be the big 8 again and be less relevant than the Big East.



Poor missery pussy hurt about their football team's bowl.

[oujones2001]

if academics had anything to do with anything sports related we would have been better in the SWC.


Pittsburgh will join the Big 10

and good for them

wtf are you talking about? Where do you get off that A&M has "superior" academics?  Have you actually spoken to any of your graduates??  I work with a few here in Austin and I'm in no way impressed.

As far as sports go...what the hell have you added to the conference that we would miss if you left the big12 tomorrow?!? a mildly competitive basketball/baseball program and one big12 champ. in football?

[Smoothie King II]

Zero U grad talking academic smack



that's just fucking crazy



I can understand CU an MU trying but OU?

[Smoothie King II]

BYU and Utah might be the major beneficaries of this whole thing.


The Pac 10 might be forced to expand to 12 teams because thier bowl tie in has upgraded to 12 teams.


The most likely candidates are Utah and BYU


The PAC 10 might make a run at UT or CU but don't think it's likely for the same reasons why they didn't take them before.


If Missouri leaves. things would get very interesting.

June 19, 2008- NBC renewed its television contract with Notre Dame football through the 2015 season on Thursday despite the Fighting Irish last year drawing their lowest ratings since the network began broadcasting their games in 1991.

[NC]

if missery leaves we can replace them with notre dame, and if ut and a&m leave we can get someone like smu and tcu to replace them.

which would be alot better than than listeming to the whineing bitches (ut a&m and missery)...


and they can take that skank known as rodless's mother with them.

[Smoothie King II]

please don't reply to this thread anymore

[NC]

Is this computer worth the money if you want to edit HD video?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/608729-REG/Apple_MB871LL_A_Mac_Pro_Desktop_Computer.html

or is there something cheaper that works just as good?

I want to start makeing movies with my HD camera..

[flarple]

Forget it losers - they take Pittsburg. Story over, FLARPLE has spoken.

[Richard Head]

Could someone list the Majors of them  Nebraska Ac all americans? 

I'm thinking phys ed for the better part.   

I'm betting none of them majored in nuclear physics. 

[shmendric]

Could someone list the Majors of them  Nebraska Ac all americans? 

I'm thinking phys ed for the better part.   

I'm betting none of them majored in nuclear physics. 

Ben Nelson majored in whore economics with a minor in butt-fucking the nation

[Mizzou Mafia]

Forget it losers - they take Pittsburg. Story over, FLARPLE has spoken.

Is this a 90 percent FLAPLE lock?

[Mizzou Mafia]

From the Columbia Tribune:

Frustration and temptation for MU's Alden

For as long as the Big Ten Conference has hinted about expanding, Missouri has been mentioned as a candidate to switch allegiances from the Big 12. But that back-burner issue has heated up recently,

with the Big Ten publicly stating it will consider expanding and MU’s frustration with the Big 12 at an all-time high.

For three straight years, the Tigers have been sent to a bowl game lower on the conference pecking order than their record warranted, and the Missouri soccer team didn’t get an NCAA Tournament bid despite winning the Big 12 regular-season title. Among MU’s other complaints is that the Big 12’s football revenuesharing formula — half the television money is split evenly, and the other half is distributed based on TV appearances — is causing a class divide in the league and led to the conference sitting on its hands while the Big Ten and SEC signed better TV deals.

On Thursday, Tribune sports editor Joe Walljasper spoke at length with Missouri Athletic Director Mike Alden about the possibility of defection to the Big Ten.

Q: What are some of your frustrations with the Big 12 or why isn’t it working the greatest for Missouri?

A: I don’t know if I would approach it saying, “Not working the greatest.” I think the challenges we face as a league — and they do impact Missouri — are our television contract and our ability to have equal revenue distribution. I don’t think there’s any question that if we don’t get to that level at some point, we’re going to continue to find ourselves further and further behind the Big Ten, the SEC and probably the ACC, as well as behind Texas and Oklahoma, in particular, and maybe Nebraska in our league. Our hope would be that the league would continue to push harder in those areas, for a new television contract for more exposure and for equal revenue distribution.

Another thing that probably is frustrating a little bit for Missouri — and that’s not to disparage any other programs, because there are really fine academic institutions in our entire league, they all are — but academically our student-athletes have done a great job and they’ve really performed at a high level. I think that the perception of the league has to continue to grow because if that doesn’t happen, that doesn’t help Missouri. We’re somewhat of an outlier with how our kids are doing academically. The affiliation with a league that is perceived to be really strong academically is really important to our institution.

Q: What is the difference in the football television revenue Missouri made this year vs. Texas?

A: Mizzou has been pretty fortunate the last few years. We’ve been on the higher end. We’ve been in the top four schools in our league for the last four years in television revenue for football. But still the difference in television revenue with us and Texas would be about $3 million. Mizzou may get approximately $9 million in television revenue, all things being equal, and Texas would be about $12 million. Then Baylor would be around $7.5 million.

That gap is there, but more importantly, let’s take a look at Illinois. We’re not only competing against our league, we’re competing against Illinois. The question is, what is the difference between what Illinois is getting in revenue distribution from the league — that’s television, basically — and what Mizzou is getting? Ours is $9 million. Illinois’ is $21 million.

Q: Why doesn’t the Big 12 have a better television deal?

A: Because when we had the opportunity to do that, which we did three years ago, and it was brought to our attention that we could start our own Big 12 Network and a couple of other things — that was actually presented to us in New York City, I believe three years ago — we couldn’t get consensus among 12 institutions to say this is what’s best for the league. When we couldn’t get consensus on that, nobody could make a decision. And then the Big Ten went forward and did their deal, the SEC did their deal with ABC and ESPN and took up a bunch of money there, and the Big 12 Conference was behind both of those leagues on that.

Q: What was the sticking point for the Big 12?

A: It had to do with revenue distribution and fear of the unknown. The unknown being that a network had never been done with college athletics before. We had heard rumors about the Big Ten getting ready to do it. So various voices in the room were concerned that we were going into uncharted waters. We have this pretty good contract with ABC, ESPN and Fox, and why would we want to give up a sure thing for a speculative deal? By us backing away from that, the Big Ten went forward with that. It was fear of the unknown. We had the same presentation at the same time by CSTV. CSTV had talked to us at the same set of meetings about starting our own network based upon the theory of ESPN Classic. When ESPN Classic was started, everybody said, “Who’s going to watch this? Old video of teams that used to play, 24-7? How is this going to be successful?”

The same people that started ESPN Classic came to us as a league and wanted us to use a similar model to start our own network, based upon this pro forma that had been shown. And we couldn’t come to a consensus. It was pretty frustrating. So we stayed the course and continued the same direction we were, and what we found is we found today that the SEC contract is worth $205 million per year, the Big Ten contract is worth $190 million per year — and both of those leagues share equally — and the Big 12 Conference contract is worth $80 million per year and we don’t share equally. That is a significant gap. Not only is that a significant difference in our league, between appearance fees and not sharing it equally, but when we’re recruiting against Illinois, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Indiana, schools like that, we’re in the hole as far as resources are concerned.

Q: Are there reasons that the Big Ten and SEC would have better contracts based on the cities involved rather than the fact they have their own conference TV networks?

A: There are a couple of things. The households are important for television, how many homes are in that market. In our footprint, we have less homes in the Midwest, upper Midwest, down through Texas, than they do in the SEC or Big Ten Conference. Immediately they’re going to have more homes to be able to sell cable networks or their own network to. So that, in itself, would have an impact, but certainly not to a level of $110 and $125 million per year difference right now. But it would have some percentage difference, maybe 10 percent less or 15 percent less because of the number of homes.

Q: The Big 12’s current TV deal runs through what year?

A: I believe it’s four more years.

Q: Are there opportunities to renegotiate?

A: There’s a current opportunity to possibly renegotiate the current cable package, which is really the Fox package, and that’s the smaller part of that $80 million. You can’t negotiate the big package for three or four years. You’re three or four years from doing anything of any significance.

Q: On the topic of revenue sharing, my understanding is you have to have a super majority of nine votes to change rules in the Big 12. Why haven’t the nine schools other than Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas gotten together as a block and decided it would be in their best interest to change the formula?

A: I couldn’t answer that. I know where Mizzou is on that, where our chancellor and our leadership is on equal revenue distribution. But I couldn’t answer why the other schools haven’t.

Q: Has it ever come to a vote, or do you know where each other stands and know there’s no point in a vote?

A: I think from the board of directors, and those are the ones that make the decision — Dr. (Brady) Deaton and his counterparts — I don’t believe it’s come to a formal vote. From what I understand, because I’m not in those meetings, is that the sentiment of the room is that there may not be enough votes to push that forward at this time. They want to make sure that’s something that will carry the day when they go forward.

Q: Is there some sort of concern about alienating Texas to the point it would leave the conference?

A: You know what, I don’t know the answer to that question. There are a couple of schools — Texas, Oklahoma, maybe Nebraska — that aren’t in favor of sharing things equally. But whether that means people are worried about alienating Texas, I don’t know.

Q: The Big Ten is officially talking about expanding. What would be the advantages of the Big Ten for Mizzou?

A: Right now, we have a tremendous advantage in the Big 12. I think we do. The teams we compete against and the footprint we’re in is certainly an asset to our institution. I think the focus needs to be on what do we need to do to make Mizzou better and hopefully by Mizzou being better, the Big 12 gets to be better.

I don’t know if there are advantages or disadvantages. The image of the Big Ten, all schools are AAU (Association of American Universities) members, like Mizzou is. There are only 34 publics in the whole country that are part of that. Mizzou is one of those schools, and that means nationally, academically, we’re seen as a really strong program, just like all of the schools in the Big Ten are. That’s a strength the Big Ten would have.

… (Former Big 12 Commissioner) Kevin Weiberg was quoted as saying this a few days ago in USA Today — he was commenting on the Big Ten — he said, “Rest assured, this will not be about athletics.” Everybody in our world thinks this is about athletics, but it’s not. Conference realignments are always based primarily on academics. From Weiberg, a guy that used to be our commissioner and the No. 2 guy in the Big Ten, he’s got a pretty strong knowledge base. It has to do with similarities of institutions, similarities of academic mission, similarities of research, professional schools that they have, contiguous ideals, regionalization, things like that.

I know I haven’t answered your question, but I would tell you that the Big Ten has a certain brand and a certain image. We have a certain brand and a certain image, and I think both of them are outstanding, but they’re just different, that’s all.

Q: Outside of athletics, what sort of connection is there among conference schools?

A: From a regionalization standpoint, we do a lot of stuff with Kansas State, we do a lot of stuff with Iowa State, with Kansas, with Illinois, relative to research — international conferences on agricultural research or biodiesel efforts — so it’s important, particularly academically, that you have an ability to align with other schools, because again, we’re competitive against Kansas every day when we play against them, but if there’s an ability for our institutions to get together to do something great research-wise or academically, we’re going to do that.

Q: You mentioned the difference of $12 million in TV football revenue between Missouri and Illinois. That’s $12 million you wouldn’t have to work the phones to get. Wouldn’t that have to play a role in the decision?

A: It would be for anyone. When the Big Ten takes a look at expanding, they have to look at: You’re splitting it 11 ways now, and you’re going to have to split it 12 ways. What’s the value that people are bringing to the table revenue-wise, household-wise, competitive-wise — all of this athletically — but also academically, what are you doing as far as similarities with our institutions? … If I’m one of their institutions, I want to make sure if I’m getting $21 million now, I continue to get $21 million.

Q: Is the profit of a football championship game in any way enough to offset the difference to splitting the pot with a 12th team?

A: I don’t think so. Our championship game impact for all the Big 12 schools — and we share that equally — is probably about $400,000 per school.

Q: Would you rather work it out with the Big 12 and try to make the Big 12 a better conference for you, or would you rather go to the Big Ten?

A: Are you asking me personally?

Q: Yes.

A: We need to keep making Mizzou stronger and stronger and making the Big 12 stronger and stronger. We need to keep saying — and we are — proud members of the Big 12 Conference. We’re fortunate to be associated. If you’re asking me personally, my preference would be to do everything you can to strengthen the Big 12. That’s what you’ve got to do. But as Dr. Deaton said recently, you’re always going to continue to evaluate what’s best for the university.

Q: In terms of travel expenses or anything else, what would be the disadvantages of Missouri joining the Big Ten?

A: We keep looking at the strengths we have in our league. There are great advantages and disadvantages for us. We’re flying to Colorado, or Colorado has to fly here. We’re flying to Lubbock, or they have to fly here. So geographically, I don’t think that footprint helps or hurts any schools any more. You’re traveling all these distances. Like Penn State has to travel all the way to Champaign — that’s a long trip — or all the way to East Lansing. So I don’t think the geography part of it, I don’t think the challenges or benefits are much different in our league vs. other leagues.

Q: This topic has been coming up forever, and in the past when I asked about it, it was a total nonstarter with you, and now it isn’t. Is that fair to say? Would you consider yourself more interested in looking into it than you were four or five years ago?

A: I don’t know if I would say that. I wouldn’t say that. I would say that as a league, we’ve got to continue to do everything we can to make our league stronger — not one or two or three schools. We’ve got to do what makes our league stronger, and we believe as proud members of the Big 12 that we have been good citizens, we have given of ourselves to make everybody stronger, we have been, hopefully, good members of the league. So I wouldn’t say it’s changed. I would say it’s as strong as it’s always been. But we’ve got to see some movement in those directions, and I’ve been here 12 years, and frankly, I haven’t seen a lot of movement.

Q: Aside from the revenue-sharing issue, do you feel like the Big 12 hasn’t been good about throwing its weight around for its members. For example, you’ve got a soccer team that wins the Big 12 regular-season title, loses only one conference game and doesn’t make the NCAA Tournament. For three straight years you’re getting bowl games that are lower on the list than you deserve. Do you think league officials could be more assertive about supporting their schools?

A: Yes.

Q: And why do you think they aren’t?

A: I wouldn’t want to speculate on that. But my answer to you on that is yes.

Q: Gut feeling, do you think a switch to the Big Ten happens?

A: My gut isn’t telling me one thing or the other. I don’t know.

Q: The chancellor has been quoted as saying that if the Big Ten is interested, Missouri would listen. Is that a different answer than he would have given five years ago?

A: I don’t know. I would guess that the answer would have been the same and would always be the same. We’re all part of the team, and you’re not trying to be individualistic, you’re just trying to say that we look at everything we can be able to do as an institution. I can’t speak for Brady, but I think that answer would be consistent.

[Mizzou Mafia]

And for those of you keeping score at home:

SEC contract: 210 million, split evenly
Big 10 contract: 190 million, split evenly
Big 12 contract: 70 million, not split evenly

[Goldbrick]

Q: Would you rather work it out with the Big 12 and try to make the Big 12 a better conference for you, or would you rather go to the Big Ten?

A: Are you asking me personally?

Q: Yes.

A: We need to keep making Mizzou stronger and stronger and making the Big 12 stronger and stronger. We need to keep saying — and we are — proud members of the Big 12 Conference. We’re fortunate to be associated.

Indeed.

And the Big 12 does need new contracts. That comparison seems ridiculous to me. Don't care that much about whether its split evenly or not. You can look at it as incentive to do better or another method of keeping you down, depending on your perspective.

[Mizzou Mafia]

Mizzou got 12 million in football. Illinois got 23 million. The programs are not close.

I've done a 180. If the Big Ten calls, we should go.

Unless the Big 12 fixes its shiat, and that's what Alden just did. He dropped the gauntlet.

[Super PurpleCat]

What a load of whiny horseshit.

Seriously.

Sick and fucking tired of the Mizzou fans bitching about this.  You're such a wonderful academic institution?  What the fuck does that have to do with an *athletic* conference?  Pissed off about your payouts?  You fucks haven't won jackshit in this conference or outside of it, in any sport.  To sit there and twiddle your thumbs and moan because you aren't being treated like a Texas, Oklahoma or Nebraska is ludicrous because you *aren't* a Texas, Oklahoma, or Nebraska.  You have 7 million people in your state, whoopty fuckin do.  Where are all those TV sets in your state when you were in the Big XII title game last year.  Set any attendance records in the conference lately?  Not that I heard.

If you people really thing the Big 10 is greener pastures for you then you're delusional.  Your misplaced frustration with the Big 12 conference belongs with your own school.  What bowl do you fucks honestly think you deserve this year?  Cotton?  Nope, Okie State was better this year.  Holiday?  Nope Nebraska is going.  If you want better bowls then do better.  Running like bitches to the Big 10 isn't going to make this better.  What, do you think finishing 2nd in the shittier division of the conference means Rose Bowl?  Not even in a crappy year in the Big 10.

All your school is doing is making the Big 12 front office sweat for a better deal.  And Mizzou's shit is all retarded because they think they have that kind of marquee value as a school to do that.

[Smoothie King II]

hell I'm ready to leave you bitches for the SEC with or without tu.


OU you want to ride on our coattails?

[Smoothie King II]

Former Big 12 Commissioner) Kevin Weiberg was quoted as saying this a few days ago in USA Today — he was commenting on the Big Ten — he said, “Rest assured, this will not be about athletics.” Everybody in our world thinks this is about athletics, but it’s not. Conference realignments are always based primarily on academics. From Weiberg, a guy that used to be our commissioner and the No. 2 guy in the Big Ten, he’s got a pretty strong knowledge base. It has to do with similarities of institutions, similarities of academic mission, similarities of research, professional schools that they have, contiguous ideals, regionalization, things like that.

I can't believe he said that with a straight face.

1) it is all about the money.

2) equally sharing the money - he has a point

3) what ass hat(s) said no to the Big 12 network and who negotiated our crappy TV deal?


if this was really all about academics, we would have brought Rice instead of Tech.

Rice is a really good school better than most of the Big 10 I would say.

if it were really about academics then Notre Dame would have joined the Big 10

if it were really about academics then Florida must stay up late at night to tutor Miss. State through it's finals.

if it were really about academics then why doesn't the Ivy league play big time sports.

[fatty4ksu]

stop obsessing about academics, loser.

[Smoothie King II]

I will fucking obsess over whatever I god damn want to.


It's not like I'm obsessing over a fellow poster.



not that's there's anything wrong with that 

[NC]

And for those of you keeping score at home:

SEC contract: 210 million, split evenly
Big 10 contract: 190 million, split evenly
Big 12 contract: 70 million, not split evenly

only the tv money should be split evenly, everything else should be what each school can get.like each school should keep their own bowl money,gate money,big 12 championship game money, ect..but advertiseing money made by the big 12 should be split even, to help out folks like isu, baylor and k-state.

[NC]

hell I'm ready to leave you bitches for the SEC with or without tu.


OU you want to ride on our coattails?

you love the whorns too much to do that...admit it..

[Smoothie King II]

no I think it weakens A&M and ut to split us up



no love

[mjrod]

stop obsessing about academics, loser.

Are you ever going to graduate?

How many years have you been in?  7?

[Goldbrick]

I will fucking obsess over whatever I god damn want to.

[Mizzou Mafia]

What a load of whiny horseshit.

Seriously.

Sick and fucking tired of the Mizzou fans bitching about this.  You're such a wonderful academic institution?  What the fuck does that have to do with an *athletic* conference? 

SPC, I love you like a brother, even though you have an extra chromosome. Yeah, the Big 12 is an athletic conference. The Big Ten ISN'T just an athletic conference. Having attained a grad degree from time to time, I know something along these lines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Institutional_Cooperation There's a league within a league in the Big Ten, with a more than $5 BILLION pool of money. The payout for each school is at minimum, $7 million per year. That's for grants, equipment, etc. Divided equally.

The Big 12? Pretty much bumpkis. There are bi-lateral agreements between schools (I understand that MU and K-State have agreements in the agro sector, for one example), but nothing as comprehensive.

Pissed off about your payouts?  You fucks haven't won jackshit in this conference or outside of it, in any sport.

We have won the North 2 out of 3 years, and have won 12 games in one year during that span. It got us ... the Cotton Bowl, while a team we beat went to the Orange. We won the Big 12 basketball automatic bid last year, and finished in the Final 8. Softball, World Series this year. Howyadoin'?

BTW, you went in '98 from going to the cusp of the National Championship to the Alamo Bowl. How'd that ass taste? Did the Big 12 step up for you? 

To sit there and twiddle your thumbs and moan because you aren't being treated like a Texas, Oklahoma or Nebraska is ludicrous because you *aren't* a Texas, Oklahoma, or Nebraska.  You have 7 million people in your state, whoopty fuckin do.  Where are all those TV sets in your state when you were in the Big XII title game last year.  Set any attendance records in the conference lately?  Not that I heard.

Bully for you - your championship games were in K.C. and St. Louis. I would like to see how many would travel to St. Antonio on two weeks notice.
As for our 7 million - it's the second-most in this retarded conference (and almost 4 times what your state has, with 2 Big 12 schools). Two top 35 markets to boot. If you think your interests would be better served with TCU (really, no TV gain), by all means.

If you people really thing the Big 10 is greener pastures for you then you're delusional.  Your misplaced frustration with the Big 12 conference belongs with your own school.  What bowl do you fucks honestly think you deserve this year?  Cotton?  Nope, Okie State was better this year.  Holiday?  Nope Nebraska is going.  If you want better bowls then do better.  Running like bitches to the Big 10 isn't going to make this better.  What, do you think finishing 2nd in the shittier division of the conference means Rose Bowl?  Not even in a crappy year in the Big 10.

With 8 wins and second place in the North, I think we deserve the Insight Bowl in Arizona. We certainly do over a 6-win team THAT WE BEAT. Did the Big 12 go to bat for us at all? Nope. With the new bowl agreement, we'd land in New York City. You know what the temperature is there right now?

All your school is doing is making the Big 12 front office sweat for a better deal.  And Mizzou's shit is all retarded because they think they have that kind of marquee value as a school to do that.

This is where your show your extra chromosome, SPC. If you thought it through, you would be rooting the Mafia on (as would, basically, about 8 other teams in this league), because what would be good for Mizzou would also be good for KSU. Unless you like your non-proportional slice of a VERY small money pie. And your North-leading team (for most of the year) might appear on something else than a channel called VERSUS every game. You wouldn't have to be hanging out all the time on justin.tv.

I grew up with the history and tradition of Big Eight athletics, but I'm now convinced that IF Mizzou-rah would move to the Big Ten, my degree in 10 years would be worth more than if it is associated with the Big 12. So either way (improvement in the Big 12, or move to the Big Ten), it's all good.

[rc cola]

The Nebraska Cornhuskers lead the nation in the number of academic All-Americans. Nebraska also leads the nation in Academic All-Americans in football. At the end of fall 2008 sports season, there were a total of 260 academic All-Americans in all sports, all teams.


Top ten programs for academic All-Americans 2008
1   Nebraska   260
2   Notre Dame   204
3   MIT   145
4   Penn State   144
5   Augustana   126
6   Stanford   126

ect.ect.ect.

"players come to NU to get their degree" keith jackson

It's apparent you weren't one of them.   Next time let one of them post.  They're probably laughing are your stupid post.

 

It's a cinch that UNL didn't play football

[Goldbrick]

Good God, Mafia. You sound like some jilted high-maintenance girlfriend who's pissed off cuz her man didn't open a door for her.

You're overplaying the academics angle just because you think it'll help to spite the Big 12. But you'd regret leaving this conference almost immediately.

Mizzou just wants to feel appreciated, without having to work for it.

[CC Papyrus]

If MU wants to go, then fucking go already.  Move OU to the North so we can get our annual NU/OU Thanksgiving weekend back and get that Big 8 thing going again, and put TCU in the south.

It would be GREAT for the Big12!!

While we're at it lets boot CU and bring in Arkansas...Arkansas to the south and OSU to the North.

SOUTH:
Texas
Texas Tech
Arkansas
TCU
Texas A+M
Baylor

NORTH:
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Nebraska
Iowa State

Holy shit!  ...now that would be a kick-ass fucking conference!!

[Mizzou Mafia]

Good God, Mafia. You sound like some jilted high-maintenance girlfriend who's pissed off cuz her man didn't open a door for her.

You're overplaying the academics angle just because you think it'll help to spite the Big 12. But you'd regret leaving this conference almost immediately.

Really? We'd regret it?

I don't know. $7 million a year (almost a BCS bowl payout a year) in academic programs, might be defined as "fuck you" money.

Again, if you were thinking with something other than your junk, you would be on the Mafia's side.

But please, keep licking up the table scraps Texas tosses your way. By all means.

[Smoothie King II]

you haven't replied to any of my questions.

from an academic perspective, I think the CIC is a good idea, I'm not sure what if anything Missouri brings to the table. largest nuclear reactor huh?

National research universities, often referred to as Tier One universities, attract top faculty and students to produce scientific innovation and economic benefit. Texas lags behind similarly sized states in the number of national research universities. Texas has only three Tier One schools – The University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M University and Rice University – compared to California’s nine and New York’s seven.

House Bill 51 constructs a framework of funding that rewards performance by all of the state’s public universities, but in particular the seven universities classified by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board as “emerging research universities.” They include Texas Tech University, The University of Houston, The University of North Texas, The University of Texas at Arlington, The University of Texas at Dallas, The University of Texas at El Paso and The University of Texas at San Antonio

[Goldbrick]

Good God, Mafia. You sound like some jilted high-maintenance girlfriend who's pissed off cuz her man didn't open a door for her.

You're overplaying the academics angle just because you think it'll help to spite the Big 12. But you'd regret leaving this conference almost immediately.

Really? We'd regret it?

I don't know. $7 million a year (almost a BCS bowl payout a year) in academic programs, might be defined as "fuck you" money.

Again, if you were thinking with something other than your junk, you would be on the Mafia's side.

But please, keep licking up the table scraps Texas tosses your way. By all means.

Stop acting like you give a damn about academics and how much money your school might rake in by running away.

None of them will help you measure up athletically.

[Smoothie King II]

If MU wants to go, then fucking go already.  Move OU to the North so we can get our annual NU/OU Thanksgiving weekend back and get that Big 8 thing going again, and put TCU in the south.

It would be GREAT for the Big12!!

While we're at it lets boot CU and bring in Arkansas...Arkansas to the south and OSU to the North.

SOUTH:
Texas
Texas Tech
Arkansas
TCU
Texas A+M
Baylor

NORTH:
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Nebraska
Iowa State

Holy shit!  ...now that would be a kick-ass fucking conference!!

what is with you nubb posters and idiotic conference realignments?

Arkansas is never going to leave the SEC

TCU is a bigger piece of shit then Baylor, there is a reason why they got dumped out of the SWC\Big12 and WAC\MWC

If we have to get two new teams the best out there are BYU and Utah. That we could get.

[Super PurpleCat]

It's bad enough having to travel all the way out to Boulder/Lubbock for games, who the crap wants to head all the way out to Utah?

[Smoothie King II]

It's bad enough having to travel all the way out to Boulder/Lubbock for games, who the crap wants to head all the way out to Utah?

mormons

[Mizzou Mafia]

you haven't replied to any of my questions.

from an academic perspective, I think the CIC is a good idea, I'm not sure what if anything Missouri brings to the table. largest nuclear reactor huh?

National research universities, often referred to as Tier One universities, attract top faculty and students to produce scientific innovation and economic benefit. Texas lags behind similarly sized states in the number of national research universities. Texas has only three Tier One schools – The University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M University and Rice University – compared to California’s nine and New York’s seven.

House Bill 51 constructs a framework of funding that rewards performance by all of the state’s public universities, but in particular the seven universities classified by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board as “emerging research universities.” They include Texas Tech University, The University of Houston, The University of North Texas, The University of Texas at Arlington, The University of Texas at Dallas, The University of Texas at El Paso and The University of Texas at San Antonio

Smoothie, you need a department-by-department breakdown? Sorry, I'm not your monkey.

I will say that I went to Mizzou for its journalism program, which is regarded in the top trinity (MU, Northwestern, North Carolina) in the country. There really are no other competitors. And that's really all I care about.

If MU gets a boost academically from the Big Ten, I think that's a good thing.

Look at Iowa. Finished strong in the conference (and they share the state with another D-1 school, we don't), just missed the Rose Bowl. You say we can be on a level with Iowa? We have a better hoops team than they do, and historically, have recruited places like Detroit well. We also own Illinois. We'd be fine.

Don't get me wrong. I would rather stay in the Big 12. But I want this league to man up. A TV contract half the size of comparable conferences. The money goes to the University of Texas.

I heard an interview with the Big 12 commissioner last week. He said, oh, Missouri wouldn't leave. They have these great rivalries in the Big 12 with Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.

WTF? Texas Tech? Yeah, I have that circled on my calendar every second year. This just goes to show that the league has its head up its ass.

This league is fraked up. So this is the time to fix it. If not ...

[SIG]

you haven't replied to any of my questions.

from an academic perspective, I think the CIC is a good idea, I'm not sure what if anything Missouri brings to the table. largest nuclear reactor huh?

National research universities, often referred to as Tier One universities, attract top faculty and students to produce scientific innovation and economic benefit. Texas lags behind similarly sized states in the number of national research universities. Texas has only three Tier One schools – The University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M University and Rice University – compared to California’s nine and New York’s seven.

House Bill 51 constructs a framework of funding that rewards performance by all of the state’s public universities, but in particular the seven universities classified by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board as “emerging research universities.” They include Texas Tech University, The University of Houston, The University of North Texas, The University of Texas at Arlington, The University of Texas at Dallas, The University of Texas at El Paso and The University of Texas at San Antonio

I will say that I went to Mizzou for its journalism program, which is regarded in the top trinity (MU, Northwestern, North Carolina) in the country. There really are no other competitors.

Yeah, the programs at Syracuse and Ohio really suck.
 

[Mizzou Mafia]

Syracuse has a rep for their sports journalism, which is a very small niche. Ohio? Meh.

I'm not judging, just passing on what I've heard.

[SIG]

Syracuse has a rep for their sports journalism, which is a very small niche. Ohio? Meh.

I'm not judging, just passing on what I've heard.

What you heard? In Estonia?